From: Smylers Date: 16:30 on 25 Jul 2006 Subject: Outlook Web Access Calendar Outlook Web Access[*0] is so easy hate, but here's the one that's just bitten me. 'New Appointment' has, quite reasonably, 'Start time' and 'End time', each with drop-down fields for day, month, and year, in that order. Both default to today. I set 'Start time' to "30 August 2006", and 'End time' is automatically updated to the same. I set the day field of 'End time' to 1 and tab to the next field, where I change "August" to "September", then I submit the thing. Only then to notice that it's turned a 3-day event into a month-long one! On trying to repeat the exercise I discover that after I set the end day to "1", Outlook changed it back again to "30". Apparently its JavaScript couldn't cope with the fields saying "1 August 2006" (which is before the start date) even transitionally -- even though I'd just left the day field so as to set the month! Hate!! Under what circumstances could I have possibly wanted the behaviour I What right has Outlook got to decide that even though I picked the 1st of the month it is going to change this -- and do it silently, so that I don't even spot it happening! Surely if I've just set the day to "1" then the one thing you can be sure of is that I want the day to be "1"; if that creates an inconsistency then update the _other_ fields, the ones I haven't yet set, to resolve the matter, you idiot. How can it possibly make sense to insist on setting the date fields in descending order of magnitude yet display them (and have their tabbing) in ascending order? My guess is that the field order is localized, and this was developed by people with a locale which has month before day, so that it didn't bite them (well, unless they have the completely stupid order of month-day-year and tried to schedule an event over December to January, but obviously they didn't test that much) and then shipped the thing treating localizations as being purely cosmetic. Hate. [*0] Actually I only have experience of the non-Internet-Explorer version. I believe that WinIE gets a much-souped-up version, but really, what's the point in that? If I were on Windows then I wouldn't be needing to use Outlook Web Access anyway cos Outlook itself would run there. Smylers
From: Jonathan Stowe Date: 19:48 on 25 Jul 2006 Subject: Re: Outlook Web Access Calendar On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 16:30, Smylers wrote: > Outlook Web Access[*0] is so easy hate, but here's the one that's just > bitten me. I'm not even going to start .... > [*0] Actually I only have experience of the non-Internet-Explorer > version. I believe that WinIE gets a much-souped-up version, but > really, what's the point in that? If I were on Windows then I > wouldn't be needing to use Outlook Web Access anyway cos Outlook > itself would run there. The scary scary thing for all you open source fanboys out there is that the set of technologies that became the proto-AJAX were invented for Outlook Web Access some six years ago .... /J\
From: Jarkko Hietaniemi Date: 19:53 on 25 Jul 2006 Subject: Re: Outlook Web Access Calendar >> itself would run there. > > The scary scary thing for all you open source fanboys out there is that > the set of technologies that became the proto-AJAX were invented for > Outlook Web Access some six years ago .... DHTML? That's more like nine years... > /J\ > >
From: Yoz Grahame Date: 16:18 on 26 Jul 2006 Subject: Re: Outlook Web Access Calendar On 7/25/06, Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi@xxx.xx> wrote: > >> itself would run there. > > > > The scary scary thing for all you open source fanboys out there is that > > the set of technologies that became the proto-AJAX were invented for > > Outlook Web Access some six years ago .... > > DHTML? That's more like nine years... He's referring to the XMLHTTPRequest object, on which AJAX tends to depend for network interaction: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMLHttpRequest#History_and_support (I say "tends" to as I realise there are alternatives involving IFRAME and SCRIPT tags, but XHR's most common) -- Yoz
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